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		By: Dark Star		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;those who had the courage to travel to new lands,mostly didso on the back of strong religeous convictions&quot;

Let&#039;s not forget that &quot;strong religious convictions&quot; includes Columbus, Ponce de Leon, Panfilo de Narvaez, Hernan Cortés, Francisco Pizarro... all Christians, all well-known murders and enslavers of uncountable numbers of indigenous people.

Dr. Michael McDonnel wrote in The &#039;Conquest&#039; of the Americas:
conquistadors regarded plunder, slaves, and tribute as the just desserts for their efforts in forcing pagans to accept Christianity and Spanish rule. After all, the conquistadors did scrupulously adhere to the Spanish law of conquest by reading the requerimiento, which ordered defiant Indians to immediately accept Spanish rule and Christian conversion, or face punishment in a “just war”. The requerimiento announced that “The resultant deaths and damages shall be your fault, and not the monarch’s or mine or the soldiers”. Attending witnesses and a notary usually certified in writing that the requerimiento had been read and ignored by the usually uncomprehending Indians, thus justifying the death and destruction that so often followed.


And if you aren&#039;t familiar with the requerimiento:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requerimiento

It was &quot;used to justify the assertion that God, through historical Saint Peter and appointed Papal successors, held authority as ruler over the entire Earth; and that the Inter Caetera Papal Bull, of 4 May 1493 by Pope Alexander VI, conferred title over all the Americas to the Spanish monarchs&quot;


And Manifest Destiny was the 19th century American belief that the United States was destined to expand across the North American continent - a divine sanction for the near genocide of an entire continent of people.


And looking to the south, Bernal Diaz wrote of the sack of the Aztecs, that “When the Christians were exhausted from war, God saw fit to send the Indians smallpox, and there was great pestilence in the city.”


I wonder, if Jesus had known just how &quot;strong&quot; those Christian religious convictions would become, would he have bothered to try to tell people to be good to one another?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;those who had the courage to travel to new lands,mostly didso on the back of strong religeous convictions&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that &#8220;strong religious convictions&#8221; includes Columbus, Ponce de Leon, Panfilo de Narvaez, Hernan Cortés, Francisco Pizarro&#8230; all Christians, all well-known murders and enslavers of uncountable numbers of indigenous people.</p>
<p>Dr. Michael McDonnel wrote in The &#8216;Conquest&#8217; of the Americas:<br />
conquistadors regarded plunder, slaves, and tribute as the just desserts for their efforts in forcing pagans to accept Christianity and Spanish rule. After all, the conquistadors did scrupulously adhere to the Spanish law of conquest by reading the requerimiento, which ordered defiant Indians to immediately accept Spanish rule and Christian conversion, or face punishment in a “just war”. The requerimiento announced that “The resultant deaths and damages shall be your fault, and not the monarch’s or mine or the soldiers”. Attending witnesses and a notary usually certified in writing that the requerimiento had been read and ignored by the usually uncomprehending Indians, thus justifying the death and destruction that so often followed.</p>
<p>And if you aren&#8217;t familiar with the requerimiento:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requerimiento" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requerimiento</a></p>
<p>It was &#8220;used to justify the assertion that God, through historical Saint Peter and appointed Papal successors, held authority as ruler over the entire Earth; and that the Inter Caetera Papal Bull, of 4 May 1493 by Pope Alexander VI, conferred title over all the Americas to the Spanish monarchs&#8221;</p>
<p>And Manifest Destiny was the 19th century American belief that the United States was destined to expand across the North American continent &#8211; a divine sanction for the near genocide of an entire continent of people.</p>
<p>And looking to the south, Bernal Diaz wrote of the sack of the Aztecs, that “When the Christians were exhausted from war, God saw fit to send the Indians smallpox, and there was great pestilence in the city.”</p>
<p>I wonder, if Jesus had known just how &#8220;strong&#8221; those Christian religious convictions would become, would he have bothered to try to tell people to be good to one another?</p>
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		By: Perri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have some issues with the polling. If the poll was fair, what was the demographic makeup? Are African-Americans or Muslims part of this poll that says that &quot;they&quot; would not want their child to marry one of their own? The people who take these surveys are generally people who have the time to take them and the surveys that come to them don&#039;t go to everyone. Who are they? But, that said, there is a complexity in all this that depends on where you live and who you associate with. Interesting that the founding fathers would not pass a Southern Baptist Sunday school test, but then neither would most Southern Baptist Christians. I remember the man who called a show I was on and told me, &quot;If the King James version was good enough for Jesus, it oughta be good enough for you.&quot; Think on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some issues with the polling. If the poll was fair, what was the demographic makeup? Are African-Americans or Muslims part of this poll that says that &#8220;they&#8221; would not want their child to marry one of their own? The people who take these surveys are generally people who have the time to take them and the surveys that come to them don&#8217;t go to everyone. Who are they? But, that said, there is a complexity in all this that depends on where you live and who you associate with. Interesting that the founding fathers would not pass a Southern Baptist Sunday school test, but then neither would most Southern Baptist Christians. I remember the man who called a show I was on and told me, &#8220;If the King James version was good enough for Jesus, it oughta be good enough for you.&#8221; Think on it.</p>
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		By: annie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[dear john, that melting pot of people included those imported as goods from Africa and those who lived here before the white man showed his face and drove them off their lands.  later it included chinese who built many of our railroads, and many others from different walks of life by whose hands this country was built.  so many did not believe in the judeo-christian god, unless and until they were indoctrinated in the christian religions.  furthermore, many came to america out of fear, poverty, or to escape a bad past or bleak future rather than out of courage, desire for freedom of religious expression, or desire to explore a new world.  

ironically, many americans are unaware that there are major religions that are atheistic.  what they truly fear is not atheism, but the person who is willing to shun organized religion and stand on their own to say &quot;i believe something different&quot; - in a country known for its admiration of rugged individualism.   this is a country of diversity, hypocracy, and extreme contradiction.  embracing  contention surrounding religious belief as an encouraging sign is wise given the human nature. but idealistically, one would hope those who embrace religious teachings would have learned tolerance and love for humanity, too, and would embrace those who differ from them in belief.  you are right, after all - we are all made of the same stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear john, that melting pot of people included those imported as goods from Africa and those who lived here before the white man showed his face and drove them off their lands.  later it included chinese who built many of our railroads, and many others from different walks of life by whose hands this country was built.  so many did not believe in the judeo-christian god, unless and until they were indoctrinated in the christian religions.  furthermore, many came to america out of fear, poverty, or to escape a bad past or bleak future rather than out of courage, desire for freedom of religious expression, or desire to explore a new world.  </p>
<p>ironically, many americans are unaware that there are major religions that are atheistic.  what they truly fear is not atheism, but the person who is willing to shun organized religion and stand on their own to say &#8220;i believe something different&#8221; &#8211; in a country known for its admiration of rugged individualism.   this is a country of diversity, hypocracy, and extreme contradiction.  embracing  contention surrounding religious belief as an encouraging sign is wise given the human nature. but idealistically, one would hope those who embrace religious teachings would have learned tolerance and love for humanity, too, and would embrace those who differ from them in belief.  you are right, after all &#8211; we are all made of the same stuff.</p>
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		By: john of england		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[america was built from a melting pot of people,,,those who had the courage to travel to new lands,mostly didso on the back of strong religeous convictions,,,,you are a nation of religion,,learnt behaviour,,,,an athiaest is ok in the eyes of the creator,,,,but is not in the eyes of religion,,,,,we are all equal,we are all made of the same stuff, might is not always right]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>america was built from a melting pot of people,,,those who had the courage to travel to new lands,mostly didso on the back of strong religeous convictions,,,,you are a nation of religion,,learnt behaviour,,,,an athiaest is ok in the eyes of the creator,,,,but is not in the eyes of religion,,,,,we are all equal,we are all made of the same stuff, might is not always right</p>
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